Hey HOO peeps


Second last meet up for the year 1 NOVEMBER at rainbow youth

6:30 – 8pm Please RSVP

With the year drawing to a close and HOO starting 2018 with a whole new look, this is a last get together in the way we know it.

I will continue to run HOO but in a slightly new, conceptual, different way.
I will continue to take referrals and phone calls where the main focus will be on phone/Skype counselling. When necessary or on request I will meet families/Whanau, one on one, face to face when needed. I will continue to run the website and a monthly letter, the Facebook page will continue to be amazing thanks to Julia (Thank you Julia). I will then look for and host quarterly meet ups with people who are well educated, informed and able to share good info adding something of value. I will make time at these meet ups to catch up and talk personally to families. I am open to suggestions of people you would like to listen to, who to invite.
So folks this is the new look Holding Our Own – HOO – let me know what you think – always happy to collaborate.


News bits from around the world


Gay Catholics could be denied proper funerals, leaked email reveals
Benjamin Butterworth, PinkNews 25th October 2017, 6:07 PM

Leaked emails have revealed a string of shocking orders from Catholic church bosses urging priests to turn down the funerals of gay people.

The emails ask priests to consider whether the deceased was gay and if they had “repented” before dying.

It also calls for “manifest sinners” to be denied funerals to avoid “scandal” among church-goers.
The leaked set of directives urges priests to minimise “the risk of scandal and confusion” when asked to conduct the funeral service of a person in a “notorious homosexual relationship”.

It asks priests to consider, “Was the deceased or the ‘partner’ a promoter of the ‘gay’ lifestyle?” and, “Did the deceased give some signs of repentance before death?”

It also instructs that loved ones of the deceased gay person “should not have any public or prominent role at any ecclesiastical funeral rite or service”.

It adds that the grieving partner should be removed from “any liturgical booklet, prayer card, homily, sermon, talk by the priest, deacon”.

The document continues: “If the situation warrants…ecclesiastical funeral rites may be denied for manifest sinners in which public scandal of the faithful can’t be avoided.”

The emails have been attributed to Vicar General of the Catholic diocese in Madison, Wisconsin, Msgr James R Bartylla.

In a statement, the diocese’s communications director Brent King told the Huffington Post that the leaked remarks do “conform with the mind of the bishop and meet his approval,” but that it was not an official document.

LGBT activists within the church have reacted angrily – labelling the orders “shameful”.

Marianne Duddy-Burke, executive director of the Catholic LGBT group DignityUSA, said: “This document is the very antithesis of pastoral care.

“It shows that this bishop believes that lesbian and gay people who have lived a deep commitment to a spouse or partner should be demeaned even in death.

“Our families could be refused the sacraments of our faith at the moment of their greatest grief.
“This is heartless. It is cruel. It is unchristian in the extreme.”

It isn’t the first Catholic institution to propose barring gay people from proper funerals.
A Catholic Bishop in Illinois has said that same-sex spouses should be denied communion, last rites and funeral rites.
Bishop Thomas
Paprocki, who oversees the Springfield diocese, said that unless same-sex spouses repent, they should be denied the rites.

He wrote that people in same-sex marriages “should not present themselves for Holy Communion, nor should they be admitted to Holy Communion.”

Adding that anyone in a same-sex marriage who is facing death can only receive communion if they express “repentance for his or her sins.”

Paprocki also wrote that “unless they have given some signs of repentance before their death,” they should not be afforded a Catholic funeral.

Meanwhile Pope Francis claimed that acceptance of trans people would make people infertile.
The pontiff also condemned the concept of non-binary people, saying that this too somehow jeopardises the creation of life.

He accused these people of wanting to eradicate gender-associated behaviours.

“Rather than contrast negative interpretations of sexual differences … they want to cancel these differences out altogether,” he said the increased visibility of trans people was “terrible”.

Growing acceptance of trans issues was due to “ideological colonising” through textbooks financed by wealthy people and institutions in “very influential countries,” he added.


Australia’s anti-gay ex-Prime Minister to address anti-LGBT hate group
Joseph Patrick McCormick, PinkNews 24th October 2017, 9:39 PM


The former Prime Minister of Australia, who is a vocal opponent of same-sex marriage, will address a hate group.

Later this month Malcolm Turnbull, who has become the defacto voice for the campaign against marriage equality in Australia, will speak at the hate group, the Alliance Defending Freedom.

Abbott’s spokesman told the Review that he was “honoured to have been invited by the ADF” to speak at the conference.

He is expected to reiterate his position that he is strongly against same-sex marriage.
This is not the first time Abbott has addressed the ADF. He spoke in January in New York City.
In last year’s address, Abbott said that marriage was intended as “a way of dealing with human imperfection”, and as a way to “keep men more committed and less likely to abandon their wives and children.”

He added: “Not long ago, most gay activists rejected marriage as an oppressive institution. Now, they demand as their right what they recently scorned; they demand what was unimaginable in all previous times and still is in most places. They are seeking what has never been and expecting others to surrender what always has. It’s a massive ask; for me, an ask too far.”

The ADF has supported the criminalisation of gay sex, has supported the forced sterilisation of trans people in Europe and is a strong supporter of anti-LGBT religious “freedom” laws.
Abbott previously said he had been headbutted during the campaign against same-sex marriage.

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